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The End of the World Show March 21, 2018

Posted by Ubi Dubium in Rants, Responses.
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Well, a few days after I got the ultra-impressive, extremely professionally produced Shen Yun booklet, I got another flyer for a religious event.  Full color, yes, but much thinner paper, and only four pages, so I’m going to post them all here for you.

Oh my.  The Shen Yun flyer had really professional graphics, careful layouts, and even if it was advertising a cult recruitment event, it was at least lovely to look at.  This one hurts my eyes.  Look at the cover, they’ve plopped a bunch of random images down, and then put yellow and white text on top of an image that already has a lot of yellow in it.  And I think there’s at least three different fonts.  Ow.

So let’s look at the content.  It’s inviting us to a series of lectures on “Revelation’s Ancient Discoveries”.  On the front it’s at least quite clear that this is a “Bible Prophecy Seminar” and it’s also clear that it’s free, so at least there’s that much up front.

So who is presenting this?

Join Mark Finley, a world traveler, an international speaker, for an incredible journey through Bible Prophecy.  You will be amazed that recent world events are a fulfillment of these ancient predictions.

Finley has traveled extensively throughout the Middle East to Jordan, Israel, Egypt and Turkey.  You will thrill at his clear state-of-the-art, fully-illustrated presentations that reveal the secrets of the ancient past and their meaning for our lives today!

I notice that Mark Finley is described as a “world traveler” but not as a scholar.  All you need to be a world traveler is a passport and sufficient money.  (I traveled all around southern England, but I don’t think that makes me qualified to lecture on the “Mysteries of Stonehenge”!)

So what organization is behind this?  I had my suspicions, but first I thought I’d start with the information on the flyer.  No religious denomination is listed anywhere on it.  Ah, but there’s a website listed!  revelationsdiscoveries(dot)com.  Surely there’s more information there?  No, just a single page with a link to reserve a seat, and no additional information at all.

So off to Wikipedia, where there’s a page for Mark Finley, identifying him as a Seventh Day Adventist, and a televangelist.  Which is exactly what I was expecting to find, and that’s entirely thanks to the “Oh, No, Ross and Carrie” podcast (their motto is “We show up so you don’t have to”).  They recently did a hilarious multi-part series on the lectures called “Amazing Facts” and I’ve listened to all the podcast episodes.  When this flyer arrived, my first thought was “Is this Amazing Facts?” because it’s so similar.  It had the same sort of focus on “end times”, and having exactly the right understanding of Revelation, was also free, and also was very cagey about what the organization was behind it.  Amazing Facts started with one set of lectures, but once those were completed, of course there were additional lectures for anyone who wanted the whole story.  If you look at page 3 of this flyer, it lists six scheduled lectures, but then there is a section that says “Future programs include”, so that’s the same as well.  So if you have any curiosity about what might be in a these lectures, go listen to the podcast series, because Ross and Carrie have already endured the pain of this for you.

But, I will have to say, I don’t think this flyer is trying to trick me in the same way the Shen Yun one is.  Once, when I was a kid, I went to a lecture series on Ancient Egyptian history, which was one of my hobbies back then.  The first couple were really interesting, but then in the next one the speaker went off on a bunch of “end times prophecies” nonsense, and even though I was still Presbyterian at the time, I was massively disappointed.  How worthwhile is your religion if you have to trick people into listening to you preach?  I guess I had just run into my first instance of “lying for Jesus”.  Mark Finley isn’t trying to trick anyone into listening to him blather about the bible, at least.

Except – on the back, there’s a box labeled “Children’s Program Ages 4-9” with no further information about exactly what they will be telling the children.  No.  Just NO.  Parents, even if you are interested in this series for yourselves, please DON’T subject your kids to it!


1. makagutu - March 22, 2018

Ubi, you must not miss this lectures! The world might end while you are there and you might just join the chosen crowd

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2. jim- - March 22, 2018

My new favorite oxymoron is “evangelical archaeologists”. The same that discovered Noah’s Ark on Ararat, but forgot to take pictures. Lol

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3. DesertAbba - March 22, 2018

There is no end of utter stupidity to which evangelicals are subject!

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4. Anderson Connors - March 23, 2018

At least they’re not claiming to be “scientists”, like some of the guys at Ken Hamm’s ministry, where they read the Bible and then write a blog entry and call it “science”.

But yes, pamphlets like this — and the sheer number of people making money of these scams — show how easy it is to fool an evangelical.

Believe me, I have honestly considered ending my career as a “barely making it” kind of guy and starting up a “lying for Jesus” ministry. Travel paid for by special offerings! Plenty of eager listeners! Pot luck dinners after every service! People with questions that can be answered by quoting scripture out of context!

The only reason I haven’t done it is my intense dislike of talking to people face-to-face. Perhaps if I could run some scam where I’m rushed off stage after each presentation and don’t actually have to meet with people, it might add to the mystery…

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Ubi Dubium - March 23, 2018

Perhaps you could be a phone psychic? Just as dishonest, and you don’t actually have to see people.

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Anderson Connors - March 25, 2018

Ha. Excellent idea. 🙂

(But then I’d be making EVERYTHING up, which is hard. In Christianity, someone else has already made it up for you.)

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leendadll - September 6, 2020

Heyy… my neighbor was a phone psychic!! And you’re right… she made up everything
.. “tell people what they want to hear” to keep them on the line longer.

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5. TheCovertAtheist - September 30, 2018

When I was at church, lying for Jesus was the norm. It’s OK to lie if they give their lives for Jesus lol. It reminds me of when I was a teen, and they had this big thing on called Impact World Tour. The whole gimmick was to put on all these entertaining shows such as strongman, cultural dances and skateboarding, which thousands of people would come to watch. And then at the end BOOM preach the gospel to them. I remember our church discussing it beforehand about how this was going to change the nation, and that we wouldn’t know what to do with all the new Christians. Of course if you tell anyone now, they will say ‘Impact what?’.

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6. leendadll - September 6, 2020

Phew… thanks for saving me from the temptation to see this show! Seriously! I woulda been PISSED when it turned out to be propaganda instead of athletic ballet set to wordless music!!

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