48 Sure-Fire “gotcha” questions for Atheists! (part 2) June 17, 2015Posted by Ubi Dubium in Questions, Responses.
Tags: atheism, banana, bible, christianity, Cognitive Biases, critical thinking, crockoduck, Pew Forum, Questions, religion, stupidity
So continuing on with this set of thoughtful answers to stupid questions.
9. Do you know that Jesus loves you?
No, because he doesn’t. He’s dead, so he doesn’t love anybody. Dead people don’t feel emotions, it’s one of the major side effects of being dead. I know that his fan club says that he’s alive and he loves people. But then some members of Elvis’s fanclub still think Elvis is alive. They know because they saw him shopping down at the Piggly-Wiggly.
10. If Christianity is false, then why is it popular?
Ah – the old argument ad populum, if it’s popular it must be true. For hundreds of years bleeding was the most popular medical treatment. That didn’t mean it was effective. Power Balance bracelets were so popular that the company had the money to buy naming rights to a stadium! But the bracelets turned out to be overpriced rubber bands with a big campaign of deceptive marketing behind them. There’s plenty of things that are popular that are still complete rubbish.
And you also have to consider the availability heuristic, which is a fancy phrase that means we give too much importance to the information we see right around us, and ignore other factors. If you live in the US Bible Belt, it’s easy to think that christianity is the most popular, because it’s what’s around you every day. But only about 1/3 of the world’s population is christian, the rest are muslim, hindu, buddhist, etc etc. If christianity were so obviously true, you’d think it would be more popular.
11. If you say Christianity is not true, then why do hundreds of people continue to become saved every day?
Now we need to talk about confirmation bias. We pay attention to and remember things that are different, interesting, or that agree with the opinions we already have. We ignore information that is ordinary, boring, or that contradicts our opinions. So hundreds of people are becoming “saved” every day? How many are quitting? You don’t actually know. Your church doesn’t pay attention to those numbers, or at least they don’t tell you if they do, and you don’t notice when somebody stops showing up, unless it’s a friend. Can you imagine if a church had an announcement in it’s bulletin that said “Well this week we saved two souls for jesus, and five other people stopped believing”? Yeah, they don’t print that part.
So how do we know whether christianity is gaining or losing converts overall? Here’s a chart, made with information about the US gathered from the Pew Forum, showing the religion people were raised with, and their current religion. There’s a lot a switching, but it’s apparent that a lot more people are switching out of religion than are switching into it.
This second graphic shows that all US christian groups declined in membership from 2007-2014, but the numbers of unaffiliated increased dramatically.
So at least in the US, you are not converting more people than you are losing. Sorry.
12. Why do we not see half trees and half carrots, fronkeys, and crocoducks if evolution is real?
Because that’s not the way evolution works, and this question shows a refusal to even try to understand the basics of it. If we saw crazy things like that, instead of slow stepwise modifications over time, it would be evidence that our theories about evolution were totally wrong, and we’d have to rethink things. But we don’t see those.
13. Why is Richard Dawkins afraid to debate Ray Comfort?
He’s not afraid, a debate with Comfort just isn’t worth his time. There’s several reasons for that.
- He’s a famous and accomplished biologist and science communicator, and engaging Comfort in a debate would indicate that he thought Comfort was a worthy adversary and raise Comfort’s perceived status. To paraphrase Dawkins’ comment on this (in American English) “It would look better on his resume than on mine.”
- Comfort offered $10,000 as a challenge. That’s much less than Dawkins’ usual speaking fee for a regular appearance.
- Comfort is not an honest debater. Matt Dillahunty once accepted a debate with Comfort, agreeing on the format and subject matter ahead of time. But once the debate started, Comfort declared that he didn’t care what the subject of debate was, he was just going to preach, and launched into his usual soapbox spiel. I listened to this entire debate, and Comfort was rude and dishonest about his intentions from the beginning. Matt has said he would never accept another debate with Comfort, and I don’t see any reason why anybody else would want to either.
- Debates are not a good format for arriving at truth or changing minds. There are better ways to go about it.
14. Did you know Christopher Hitchens was saved before death?
No, because he wasn’t. You don’t get to make stuff up and claim it’s true. He was very definite about not believing, right up to the end, and had harsh words for the people that he knew would try to propagate a fiction like that. This is called “lying for jesus” and it doesn’t make you look like someone who should be listened to and trusted. If making up stories like that is the best you’ve got to support your religion, then give up now.
15. Are you aware Ray Comfort disproved atheism with a banana?
I’m aware that Comfort made a fool out of himself with a banana. This is one of the questions that is so silly it makes me think this entire list is a spoof. But for the benefit of those few people out there that still think this is a legitimate question, I’ll explain.
Ray (with Kirk Cameron) claimed that the shape and tastiness and convenience of bananas was evidence that god had designed them for us.
This is a wild banana. If a god had designed bananas, this is what he designed. It’s green and hard and full of seeds and really unappetizing and inconvenient.
Sweet yellow seedless bananas don’t happen in the wild. They are the product of thousands of years of selective breeding by humans. We selected for the traits we wanted, and over time produced a plant that suited our needs. So of course it’s handy and tasty and easy to peel and seedless. (Duh.)
And how does Ray then explain a pineapple? The best fruit in the world, hidden under a nasty hard rind that won’t peel off, with spiky leaves in your face. Is that god saying “pppppbbbbbfttthhhh on you!” or what?
16.Why do people laugh at evolutionists?
It’s a defense mechanism. Fundamentalist christians (unlike mainstream christians) have based their entire worldview around the literal truth of every single word of their book. Anything that undermines any small part of that belief is a threat to all of it. Ask a Presbyterian or a Methodist if the Garden of Eden was a real place and most will say “That’s obviously a myth, meant to teach a moral lesson. Now lets sing some more happy songs about how great god is.” They aren’t concerned about the literal truth of every word, so evolution is not a threat to them, and most of them are just fine with it. But for a fundamentalist, if you undermine even a small piece of their book their whole faith could come crashing down.
And another feature of christianity is that it puts mankind up on a pedestal as it were, insisting that the entire universe was created just for us. We are the center of everything, we are special, we are different. Everything we discover that puts us farther away from being the center of the universe must be fought tooth and nail. That’s why the catholic church fought so hard against Copernicus and Galileo when they proposed heliocentrism. Not being in the center of everything made us seem less special, and they couldn’t have that. Evolution likewise pushes us off that pedestal of specialness and puts us as just one animal among many.
So evolution tells us the bible is wrong and that we are not the pinnacle of creation. Rather than face that possibility, fundamentalists make up nonsense “creation science” that doesn’t actually discover anything, and ignore inconvenient scientific findings, and tell themselves that all the professional biologists are making it all up. And they laugh, and cover their ears, and say “LA LA LA!! I can’t hear you!!” because if they didn’t they might actually learn something that would endanger their fragile belief system.